(larry l) I saw your pic and a write-up of you in ONLINE. pretty ritzy. (Sysop .^Dave^.) Yup, nicely done article methinks. thank eeeee. 11:01:31 AM EDT Sunday, October 5, 1986 (Sysop .^Dave^.) Phil, what's been new in the past two weeks? Is POWR-DOS the main news?? (PhilW) Yes, I think Powr-DOS (aka P-DOS) is it. Plus I now have the new menu utility from PG Designs for the 224K RAM. And it is very good; seems to have fixed all the bugs reported in RAMPG1.TIP (DL4). (Mel) Any news re a Model 200 Powr-DOS...and how many bytes for the M100? (Sysop .^Dave^.) Phil? Does the flyer mention the 200? Bytes? (PhilW) flyer is not here in view, but the manual says for the 100 and 200. takes 3044 bytes -- and relocates above other low-ram resident stuff. appears fully compatible with MENU.BA for the RAM. (Mel) Is it usable online? Can you save/upload while online? (PhilW) Haven't tried it. But there are some words in there about doing that but I think you need eithere X-TEL or DIRACC (by Hugo, BTW!) to do that. I just left you a message on it, Mell. Main thing to me is disk recovery. for 200 it may be that you can edit BIG files on the disk, by paging in peices of them. (Mel) Great idea! Thanks. BTW -- the new comment in the DL6 file re Richard Eckerlin is pretty strong, don't you think? (PhilW) [yes, but ....] It agrees with info I have gathered (Mel) It's just this -- Disk Power does all it claims to do and more; the fact that the supplier's on-line PR man did or did not follo through on making his stuff work with other people's hardware should not necessarily be the subject of a pretty personal attack. I think it's a lot more of concern when, like PCSG, someone markets a product like the M200 Munk, which does not do half of what's advertised. (PhilW) Constraining my words a bit.. I think Richard is more than an on-line rep; I believe he is an officer of the company. And (if so) that makes a fair diff. Plus much less seems to have been done in the past than he reported. But I would have just pulled the positive review, or reported the incompatibility. I do think that Disk Power 100, unless it learns to relocate and gets some of the P-DOS freatures (which TS-RANDOM) will have too (it is said) will fall behind. I wonder why Richard HAS been so silent of late? (Leonard E.) While I'm not all that familar with this situation, if he represents a company and makes promises/statements/etc and doesn't follow up on them he *should* be raked over the coals! (Mel) My point is, -- first, the product should perform as advertised. Then, it's open to interpretation. PRODUCTS NOT People should be reviewed on DL6. (PhilW) I thought i would mention the new menu utility by PG Designs. It appears to work with all but their earliest ram modules, so will be of interest to 64K owners; very easy to install, and does not require the removal of other BAsic stuff first. Still must be the lowest, tho. (Sysop .^Dave^.) May we expect a full review of BIGRAM ere long now? (PhilW) Yes indeed Think I will leave the P-DOS review to Joel Dinda. (Leonard E.) what (besides DSKI$/DSKO$) is added to the new dos? (PhilW) Well, it has the capability to recover files on a trashed disk (VERY much similar to Norton Utilities). CO, BA, DO, CA and it will let you edit a BIG file on the disk via a program called D-TEXT. Seems to work fine. It also will plug itself in just above other low-RAM resident stuff such as MENU.BA, SUPERA, etc. very neat! (Leonard E.) hmmm... wonder if it would work with DVI? (PhilW) [NOT likely! Hooks into TDD ROM functions.] (Leonard E.) Also, what size 'block' does DSKI$/DSKO$ use? (PhilW) DISKI$ is an info gatherer. DSKO$ is the I/O function. Don't rightly know, but I will look in manual and report back. Joel is playing with that one! (Thom Hartmann) n" "<128+3>re" etc. (first heard of it as a trick for the PC1 or 2. (Sysop .^Dave^.) Ummmm, Bob? Follow up question? (Bob S.) No, but is this a working program or just an idea at this point. If it works, would Leonard load it into the DL (Leonard E.) I've never used it, but it was a working prog on that *pocket computer*! (Sysop .^Dave^.) When you have all the D/VI programs written, then you can write the spelling helper program Leonard. (Leonard E.) (TOM BUCKLEY) WHAT HAPPENED TO portable 100 mag? (Sysop .^Dave^.) Ho hum. Darned if we know for sure; the magazine has appeared on some bookstore stands, but hasn't been received by members on subscription for some months. I'm not wasting money on getting lame excuses and empty promises by telephoning them for an explanation any longer. (PhilW) Just got a letter saying that WAyne Green has sold PICO to Terry Keppner. (Leonard E.) well, for what it is worth, P100 & Byte appeared on stands at the same time. My copy of BYTE arrived on Thursday. (PhilW) [different months, I'll bet!] (\/\/ayne) Phil - interesting note, that about Terry. He had mentioned he was on the down-and-outs with Cliff Campbell, who bought the Kepner Letter from him... and was looking for a project to do. Hope Terry has good luck with it, though he didn't mention anything about it a couple of weeks ago when we talked. (Sysop .^Dave^.) Wayne, last week there was the thought expressed of getting Traveling here to talk about RANDOM-DOS but only AFTER folks have used it a bit to be able to question and comment. Likewise, Acroatix with their gnu Powr-DOS. Now it seems that Acroatix has beat Traveling to the delivery and with GOOD GOODS !!! Methinks me call'm both for CO's in November. (\/\/ayne) Sounds good from this end... actually, as long as the program is either ready or just about ready to go, I've got no problem with a "pre-buy" conference, too. But you're right, they'd be naturals for a get together. (Sysop .^Dave^.) Okay, will do but separately one on one week, t'other two weeks later. (PhilW) [Comon Dave; doncha like blood sports on Sunday?] (TOM BUCKLEY) Is Flpy.CO compatible with Scripsit100? (Sysop .^Dave^.) Oh me. Methinks that you make it so with use of FLIPML program from DL 4 for which you see FLIPML.DOC. keep in mind that the program CORTNS.CO is the one in Scripsit that needs being adjusted to. Am I correct Phil? (PhilW) Completely so, Dave. But. Since CORTNS.CO is loaded by S-SIT, FLIPML may not do the job. (Sysop .^Dave^.) Ummm. Possible. Tom, methinks your best bet is to unload FLOPPY prior to use of SS and vice versa. Perhaps DSKMGR from DL 5 would be better idea or does that use FLOPPY too? (PhilW) Yes, DSKMGR might be better due to the fact that it will remove itself after running. With M/L programs, compatibility is usually an issue only if you want to run one to work with another. e.g., access Powr-DOS or some such from another m/l program. If you can run one, unload it and run another, no problem. (Sysop .^Dave^.) Okay Tom? Czech out DSKMGR.DOC as a better operating system for your TDD. (Terry G.) Did you say that Traveling Software is coming out with a new DOS? (Sysop .^Dave^.) Yep, RANDOM-DOS is due. (PhilW) [TS-RANDOM] (Terry G.) Any new and exciting revisions you care to share? (Sysop .^Dave^.) Know nutt'n!! (PhilW) It is said to have true random access, allow up to 8 files open on disk at once, let you use differrent sector sizes (needed for random access, maybe), recover lost files, etc. (Steve Z) I'm trying to find out if it'll work with T-0Base; as of Thursday, product "expected any time " but not in for shipment. (Sysop .^Dave^.) So far nobody has it as far as I know, but lets hear from Rush who is on Traveling's doorstep. (R Caley) I beta-tested it, but then it is more of a programmers tool than an application software for guys like me. (PhilW) I think its a T-BASE issue. T-B needs to be able to hook into non-?RAM files. Now you can only select RAM files (Ultimate ROM II version; maybe alone version is different). (Steve Z) RE ZPCHAR - I've successfully downloaded WRD001.WRD and used it, so I thought it'd work OK - only problem so far has been .PLN files, which won't transfer other than in SYLK (ascii) format. (Sysop .^Dave^.) Mortie 600 is having great puzzlementalcations over that file. He's downloaded it six times and been unable to access it; the screen freezes, have to press RESET, and then the file is gone. We'll keep on experimenting though. Want to download to disk. (Steve Z) That's EX-Actlly what happened when I downloaded the .PLN files to the ZP! I had to get them in .SYK format! Hopefully, the .TXT version is loadable - if so, feel free to re-upload it as a .WRD file ifn you want! (WOW - another incompatibility discovered!) (Sysop .^Dave^.) Steve, the .TXT file isn't print formatted at all. It appears that way on my Tandy 1000 anyway. Did you "PRINT" to .txt with no formatting? or formatted? (Steve Z) I did it w/o formatting - but would be happy to do it formatted and re-upl! (Sysop .^Dave^.) Do that, and then I'll see what happens in WORD. (R Caley) I missed the big DV/I discussion last week. But you guys sure left out alot of good stuff available. (Leonard E.) such as *what*? You have my curiousity aroused, sir! (Sysop .^Dave^.) Rush, Leonard specifically was looking for feedback from that conference and left messages on the board. Help him!! (R Caley) haven't you heard about the Disk Buddy system??? It revolutionizes DVI use!! (Leonard E.) As far as I could tell from ads (which I haven't seen in a while!) It is a glorified menu system. I'm more interested in the equiv of NU, or Super Utility or SuperZap. A Word star clone would be nice too. (R Caley) there's a there is aLOT more than menus (Sysop .^Dave^.) WHAT does Disk Buddy do that is better than Menu; what utilities? (R Caley) You don't have to get locked into all the syntax of typing 0: blah blah all the time. There is all kinds of function key utilities for copy to any device, load, save, append..name disk, also you can do boolean searches on datafiles. it goes on and on...I love it! (Sysop .^Dave^.) No monitor or file recovery utilities? (R Caley) No, there are no file recovery utilities, but then my disks never crash for some reason. (Leonard E.) Mine quit crashing after I quit using the utlities for disabling Disk Basic (to allow using the 100 without the DVI attached). I've had a couple lately most likely vaused by running out of room with multiplan. (Dana) How about a utility to remove those 4697 DVi bytes? (R Caley) there is also a super new DISqq there IS one for that purpose in DL5 under DVI/CAt. It works great, but you have to get used to it first. You do NOT have to cold start m-100 to use the DVI! (Sysop .^Dave^.) Dana, see DVI.CAT. That's in DL 5. (Sysop .^Dave^.) Okay!! ... CO closing time. Mucho mercis to all. See you when .... ta ta. 1:01:29 PM EDT Sunday, October 5, 1986 User ID Nod Handle ----------- --- ------------ 70007,2270 HOO Cathy 70136,1007 NYJ Mel 70250,211 LTR PETER 70465,203 POR Leonard E. 71266,125 TOR PhilW 72116,1374 QAM Bob S. 72226,2675 NYJ dave d 72227,2507 NAS Terry G. 72237,1711 CVK TOM BUCKLEY 72276,3505 ANA john k 72316,647 TAC R Caley 72467,3361 OKE Perry Younker 72527,765 NFK Dana 72737,72 NFK David C 73226,3504 SDC Steve Z 73327,267 OKC margaret campbell 73337,763 QCE Ralf B 73765,605 NYJ larry l 75725,1134 LSM joel 75765,1124 DCQ Mike A. 76703,376 FTW \/\/ayne 76703,446 BMD Sysop .^Dave^.