(c)1990 Golden Triangle, Inc. (c)1990 Wilson Van Alst All rights reserved. Fm: Mike Nugent (TMN East) To: Stan Wong BTW, I thought I mentioned this before, but just in case: Club 100 has been authorized to carry the Traveling Software line now. The UR-2 will sell for $89, I think. Give 'em a call to find out more, and watch the next issue of P100 for their ad. - 0 - Fm: Don Sakers To: Mike Nugent (TMN East) When Club 100 takes over the Traveling Software line, will that include LapDos? Thanks. - 0 - Fm: Denny Thomas To: Don Sakers Lapdos II is available now from Club 100. Price is shown as 39.95 + 2.00 s&h. The other products have not been priced yet. - 0 - Fm: David J. Campbell To: Denny Thomas How does one get in touch with Club 100? Someone just tried to sell me a used copy of Lapdos for $75! - 0 - Fm: Denny Thomas To: David J. Campbell You can order from their BBS (415-939-1246) where they have all of the info. They take plastic as well. - 0 - Fm: Stan Wong To: David J. Campbell The TS LapDos came with a whole bunch of cables so that you could connect any PC to the PDD as well as the M100. The Club 100 version is software only. I'm not sure if it comes with a printed manual. You need to buy any adapters separately although you don't need anything as elaborate as that offered by TS. - 0 - Fm: Stan Wong To: David J. Campbell The cable pinouts were standard, as far as I can tell. The weird part was a special connector that went in between the PDD and the PC serial port. I took it apart and it contains special serial port drivers. There also appears to be "surge protection" built into the serial lines also. A straight hook up between the PDD and PC seems to work also. - 0 - Fm: Jim Scheef To: Tony Anderson Without the 'converter' do you use a null modem cable or straight thru? Also, the 'converter' serves as a gender changer. - 0 - Fm: Tony Anderson To: Jim Scheef I attach a female to female gender changer to the cable that comes with the TDD, and plug it directly into the COM1 port on my PC. It doesn't appear that I need either a converter or null modem adapter, just the gender changer so that the cable plug fits the computer plug. - 0 - Fm: Jim Scheef To: Tony Anderson Following is the reply I got on the Club100 BBS regarding the 'converter' and the version of LAPDOS available from Club100. Msg#: 4096 *Conference* 04/05/90 09:45:11 From: RICHARD HANSON To: JIM SCHEEF (Rcvd) Subj: REPLY TO MSG# 4091 (LAPDOS) Jim: I am glad you asked that question. Version 1.42 of Lapdos does not require a converter for MS-DOS computer to TPDD communications. Yes, the old Lapdos version did require the converter. Again, the new version does not. Also, the latest version includes a loader file for loading a small, driver file into the laptop for direct laptop to MS-DOS computer communications via a null-modem cable. I decided not to automatically include a null-modem cable for economic and practical reasons (i.e., most folks have a null-modem cable already, so why increase the price of Lapdos just to cover something that most folks already have?). Furthermore, I include pinout charts for null-modem cables on the first page of the docs, included with Lapdos. I don't want to waste the club's resources on useless things, nor do I want to hold anything back. Hope this helps... -Rick- - 0 - Fm: Tony Anderson To: Jim Scheef Rick's reply is really strange. We have already determined that the converter is NOT required by the old version, and he says it was... Then there is his description of a "small driver file" that is loaded into the laptop for direct laptop to MS-DOS communications, and no such program is needed - you can use TELCOM, or "Load" or "Save" files directly from BASIC or TEXT from/to the MS-DOS computer. Phil Wheeler's FLTIBM, which runs in the PC/compatible communicates with the portables very will in that manner. - 0 - Fm: Stan Wong To: Tony Anderson Tony, The "small driver" file that Rick refers to is called LOADER, which is probably relatively new. In my version of LapDos, the latest and last, you run LOADER on the PC, go into Basic on the M100 and load from the com port. A Basic file LOADER is created (it's actually mostly m/l). When you run it and attach the M100 to the PC, LapDos reads and writes the M100 as if it were a PDD. It's quite handy. I used it a lot on a project where I was developing CO files on a PC and then quickly downloading it to the M100 for testing. - 0 - Fm: Tony Anderson To: Stan Wong Hmmm... Sounds like a convoluted approach to me. You use an emulator to load a program into the portable that makes IT an emulator, too. I still don't see the sense in doing that. Except for transferring binary files (.CO files), you can load and save direct from BASIC or TEXT to the PC, using FLTIBM, M100CO, or any number of telcom programs. You can transfer .CO files with POWR-DOS or Power-Disk. And you can use any of the popular DOS's or FLOPPY in the portable to communicate (transfer files) with the PC, so what's the point? - 0 - Fm: Stan Wong To: Tony Anderson The purpose of LOADER is to make the M100 look like a PDD. Why? Why not? I'm not sure what everyone else uses it for but I use it for several purposes. I normally store most of my M100 files on my PC. Using LapDos/Loader I can quickly transfer whole sets of files quickly. It's true that I can use FLTIBM and the like but having both the PC and M100 directory on screen at the same time makes file management easier. For program development I've got a setup on the PC where I can do my m/l development and then quickly transfer it to the M100. True FLTIBM (et.al.) will do the job also but I find LapDos/Loader to be more convenient (besides FLTIBM doesn't seem to work on my machines -- I've written it off to timing problems). - 0 - Starting message #: 23743 Starting date: 31-Mar-90 15:03:57 Participants: Mike Nugent (TMN East) 71426,1201 Stan Wong 70346,1267 Don Sakers 72517,526 Denny Thomas 76701,40 David J. Campbell 72707,1346 Tony Anderson 76703,4062 Jim Scheef 76137,757