Sb: T-View80 Works Fm: Howard A. Cohen 72416,710 To: ALL I just received T-View80 from Traveling Software, which I ordered as soon as I saw the ad in a magazine last week. I have read the manual, listened to the lecture on the back side of the tape (this should be done first, otherwise its redundant--but it sets the mood), loaded the program, and made the following tests: 1.Ran it briefly in both of the text pgms. It has two. One allows viewing in condensed text of a new or existing .DO file, and scrolling, either auto or manual, a screen at a time, while in the condensed mode. No editing is allowed in condensed mode, but it is allowed in normal mode. The escape key moves from one mode to another. Text can be added on in normal mode. The other text program allows entry of text only with no editing other than backspacing, directly in condensed mode. This text does not go into a file, but into the paste buffer directly. Upon exiting you must paste to a text file. 2. I entered but did not use the telcom pgm. This is being done on another machine. 3. Saved the two pgm files, one .BA and the other .CO, to Chipmunk disk and loaded successfully. Note that the three programs, Text-80, Entry-80, and Telcom-80, are all accessed upon entering T-VIEW.BA from the main menu, after which a submenu appears. Unfortunately, when asked for a file name for Text-80, you must remember your files-it isn't like PRINT, IDEA!, or the main menu. More like TExt-you must type in the name from your memory.... 3. I was able to load CDOS 3.11 with T-View in the machine. CDOS wipes the .CO file out of high memory without incident and the disk runs fine. 4. Trying to run T-View then indicates that the Driver, the .CO file, is gone. I then restored it (which you can do in 3 ways-either from disk, from tape, or from lower memory if you saved it there (on the main menu) when it was loaded from tape--which you should do), and was asked whether to kill CDOS. This is CDOS' normal reaction when a machine language file is loaded on top of it. Once I said N, and then the driver aborted without incident. That is, CDOS was still there and I could not use T-View. Other times I said Y, and CDOS was gone, the driver was in, and T-View could be invoked. 5. I briefly tested T-View with Supera (original versio so far). This test was partially successful. Because T-View uses the Escape key in its text-80 mode, Supera's macros (escape key strings) cannot be used. But the other most important feature, Search and Replace (F4), worked fine. Nothing can be done with Supera in Entry-80. I did not test Telcom as stated above, but the esc key is not used their by T-80, so maybe it will work. But Supera proved to be no conflict--just not available for many functions. And of course, you can always use straight TEXT with T-View80 in the machine but not working. Overall impressions: The text is narrower than we are used to, but very nicely done and no problem to read at all. You can see up to 60 characters across at a time and scroll over to the other 20 if you wish. You can also set the display to 60 or anything else up to 80 and down to 10, so at 60 you don't have to scroll. No problem with CDOS or Chipmunk at all. Those of you without Chipmunk experience--dumping CDOS is no problem--it can be restored in 2 secs or less with one button. Limited use of Supera but no conflicts. I haven't used it "for real," but see no reason not to recommend it, esp at $39.95. And its immediately available, unlike some company's we know about. I don't know if it will work with Write ROM+ or other programs which are editors. I doubt it, but of course the files can be viewed with T-View80. If anyone has any questions, let me know. Just keep in mind that I am not getting any commissions! Addition, 5/30/85 I tested the third module, Telcom-80, with and without Supera active. There is no difference in operation. As mentioned before, T-View80 cannot be used with CDOS, so you cannot download directly to disk with it on. It worked pretty much as claimed in the telcom mode. You call in regular mode and can switch to condensed mode and back and forth while on line with a key. If you set your margins at 80, you scroll sideways 20 columns each way with the up and down cursor keys to see the far sides of the virtual screen. For this test I used a local IBM-PC bulletin board, formatted for 80 columns. In the condensed mode, set for 80 columns, everything lined up right. In the condensed mode, Supera's macro keys will not work. They do work if you return to the regular size characters. Downloading worked ok, but with one difference from the manual. If you give a file name when asked which already exsts, the download aborts. A fresh name will accept downloads until memory is exhausted (I think you then loose the download) or you hit F8, which stops downloading but nothing else. Added 5/31/85 Fm: Bert Cohler 70065,204 To: Model 100 users I recieved and installed the Traveling Software T-View 80. This is a quick first report. It takes about 7K since both the program and the driver are in .co. When you access the program there are three options, one which reviews text already entered in regular mode now in extended mode, a second option to enter text in the extended mode, and telecom which permits use of telecom in extended mode. The program comes up showing 8 lines of 60 columns but can be extended to show additional single columns or groups of 5 columns up to a full 80 columns. The 60 column text is quite readable, better than the Epson Geneva; one scrolls across to get the full 80 columns using the right/left and up/down arrows. Now, there is a tradeoff using the extended display. In telecom, one can download from a host, but one can't upload or echo to the printer. On services where one can reformat the display, it is of little use, but where one wants to see full 80 column records it may be of help. On the text entry, using direct entry into the extended display, no editing functions but backspace are available. Text is entered line by line and one can't correct prior lines. Text is entered into the paste buffer. As the buffer fills, it is necessary to go back to text, paste into the text, and then return to enter in extended text mode. Text entered the regular manner may be reviewed in 80 columns (a doubtful advantage) before printing. Cost is $39.95. Beware, T-View uses high memory and may collide with other machine language programs. I found text entry using the extended mode to be a bit of an advantage, with 50% more text visible in the display BUT it is not a true 8 X 60-80 display since editing functions are mostly not available in text-entry mode. Still, with the new 64K chip, which is a WONDER, the M100 can become almost a second generation lapper.